We’ll tell you what’s going to happen here.
I’m back with AARP’s Fraud Watch data pipe Ambassador, Frank Abagnale.
Frank, thanks for joining us for the bonus episode.
[00:00:11] Frank Abagnale: Thanks, Will.
[00:00:13] Will: Also, uh Perfect Scam Producers, Brook Ellis and Julie Getz are here.
[00:00:16] Julie: Hi.
[00:00:17] Brook: Hello.
[00:00:17] Will: Good to have you back.
[00:00:19] Brook: Thank you.
[00:00:19] Will: And Frank, you, you have a book out.
[00:00:46] Will:Scam Me If you’ve got the option to.
available now if you’re listening to this bonus episode.
And Julie and Brook are going to play a fun game, right, with Frank’s help?
[00:00:53] Yes.
We are, yes.
[00:00:54] Will: And put, put Brook and I on the spot.
So Julie, tell us what we’re doing.
[00:01:05] Julie:Scam Me If you’re able to.
[00:01:07] Will: All right.
[00:01:12] Will: Ready.
I’ll do it.
[00:01:16] Julie: Okay.
Will, this first questions for you.
True or false, long complex passwords are one of the best ways to secure accounts online.
[00:01:27] Will: True.
[00:01:28] Julie: Frank, what is the answer?
[00:01:29] Frank Abagnale: False.
(chuckles)
[00:01:32] Julie: Tell us why, Frank.
[00:01:33] Will: Come on.
[00:01:34] Frank Abagnale: The best way to secure uh is no password at all.
Passwords are a 1964 technology.
[00:01:41] Will: That’s what I was going to say.
And here at 71, we’re still using passwords.
So we absolutely have to get rid of passwords.
They’re the reason for ransomware, malware, and all the problems we have today.
[00:02:06] Will: So what do we do if we’re not using passwords?
If you do use, in the meantime, passwords, obviously use a little common sense.
You never want to use your password on Amazon to be your password on your bank account.
[00:02:39] Will: All right, so zero for Will.
Brook, this next one is for you, right?
[00:02:44] Julie: Okay, Brook, you ready?
[00:02:56] Will: Oh, I know this one.
[00:02:57] Brook: False.
[00:02:59] Frank Abagnale: Brook is correct.
So, the less information you give people, the better.
People don’t need to know exactly when you’re going.
You might say I’m making a trip to Italy with the family.
You don’t have to tell them exactly when you’re leaving and exactly when youre coming back.
Uh, too much information is not good.
[00:03:38] Frank Abagnale: After the fact.
[00:03:40] Will: Gotcha.
[00:03:41] Julie: Okay, Will, are you ready?
[00:03:43] Will: Ready.
[00:03:44] Julie: Medical identity theft is a serious issue only for people on Medicare.
[00:03:49] Will: False.
[00:03:50] Frank Abagnale: You’re absolutely right.
False is the correct answer.
Medical ID theft is becoming very popular.
It’s in as simple as me being in say Washington DC and break my leg.
I have no insurance.
You have collection agencies calling you, hospitals hounding you for money.
So yes, medical identity theft is an issue.
[00:04:33] Will: Man, so okay, Will-2, Brook-1.
But we are on the second round and you need your question.
[00:04:38] Brook: Okay.
[00:04:38] Will: hey proceed, Julie.
[00:04:39] Julie: Okay, Brook.
[00:04:48] Brook: True.
[00:04:49] Will: Oooh…
[00:04:51] Frank Abagnale: True.
Banks uh don’t s–, solicit.
They will never take and solicit information over the telephone or email.
They will simply contact you and uh have you contact them to get that information.
[00:05:11] Julie: Good.
[00:05:21] Will: False.
[00:05:22] Julie: Frank?
[00:05:28] Julie: Right, so the answer’s false.
The IRS will always send written notices before calling you.
[00:05:33] Will: All right.
Wait was that my last que–…
[00:05:35] Julie: That was your last question.
[00:05:39] Brook: You have 2, yeah.
[00:05:40] Will: Brook has 2, but she has one question remaining.
So this could be, this’ll be a tiebreaker.
[00:05:43] Brook: Okay.
[00:05:44] Julie: Okay, this a tiebreaker question.
Brook…
[00:05:47] Brook: Okay.
[00:05:55] Brook: Yeah, definitely true.
[00:05:57] Will: I like that.
[00:05:58] Brook: I feel like that’s something, like my Mom would tell me.
Yeah, I think that…
[00:06:01] Will: Sleep on it in other words.
[00:06:02] Brook and Julie: Yeah.
[00:06:03] Frank Abagnale: Yes, true and Brook wins.
[00:06:14] Will: Wow, okay.
Members get to read a chapter for free.
Find out more about that there.
Julie, Brook, appreciate it.
[00:06:39] Julie: Thanks for having us.
[00:06:40] Brook: Thanks.
[00:06:40] Will: And, of course, to Frank Abagnale, thanks for being here.
We look forward to talking to you again soon.
[00:06:44] Frank Abagnale: Thank you, Will.
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Well be back with new episodes in November.
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