No matter how insidious he is, Jokers nothing without his makeup.
This time, however, viewers wont see Fleck as a non-evil clown only as the Joker.
But each has its nuances.
For Fleck, for example, Ledermann wanted a look that was classic with a twist.
Instead of clean lines, we made crooked lines.
And instead of framing and outlining the mouth with black, we left the black out.
It was weird how that became a really grotesque iteration of the same thing.
Perfectly Imperfect
For both characters, Ledermanns approach was all about imperfection.
In fact, she says it typically took just 20 minutes to transform Phoenix into the Joker.
But it was also very liberating.
